"MUSASHI66" (musashi66)
11/19/2018 at 14:03 • Filed to: None | 0 | 22 |
Passenger side oxy gen sensor, on the exhaust manifold.
We tried removing it, wouldn’t budge. Called the shop, and they said it is notoriously known for being s eized and that we might need to replace the manifold. I guess I can take the manifold off and try removing the oxygen sensor; we can hit it with a blow torch to loosen it up, but the question is this - if I do need a new manifold, am I better of with:
1. No-name brad new eBay manifold in stainless steel, with gaskets and bolts, $105 for the pair -
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2. Used set, removed at 15k miles, $60 for the side I need, or $100 for the pair, plus I guess $20-30 or so on gaskets
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3. Brand new passenger side manifold + gasket, for around $300
I am leaning on $60 used manifold and I’ll go buy my own gaskets. I already have the oxygen sensor.
I am not used to wrench on my cars any longer - that’s why I buy/lease a new one every three years, but this is my dog-mobile and I have to take care of since dad got the 2018 Tundra . I don’t really care about the oxygen sensor, but it won’t pass emissions next time they are due if it has a check engine light.
Thoughts?
Victorinoo
> MUSASHI66
11/19/2018 at 14:53 | 1 |
Worst case you drill a hole and weld a new bung, leave the existing seized o2 on there and mount another one. Note that you must mount it above the parallel to go round position so that moisture does not hang onto the top of O2 sensor.
Sovande
> MUSASHI66
11/19/2018 at 15:04 | 0 |
I just did this job on my dad’s truck two weeks ago. It was pretty easy to get his out. I would soak the sensor in PB Blaster for a few days and get a longer wrench.
I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
> MUSASHI66
11/19/2018 at 15:10 | 0 |
PB blaster, the longest breaker bar you can squeeze in there, a hammer, maybe a blow torch. Worst case is you break the manifold, but every other case is it gets out no problem. Good luck!
MUSASHI66
> Sovande
11/19/2018 at 15:16 | 0 |
So, don’t buy a new manifold? I guess it makes sense to give it a shot first. Removing the manifold is a pain in the rear, 15 bolts total on passenger side and as large of an engine bay it is, there isn’t a lot of room in there.
MUSASHI66
> Victorinoo
11/19/2018 at 15:17 | 0 |
Honestly, I’d rather buy a new one. I don’t have a welder or any welding skills, and $60 for an almost new header seems pretty good.
MUSASHI66
> I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
11/19/2018 at 15:18 | 0 |
I am not super worried about removing the sensor once I get the manifold out. That is a pain in the rear, apparently a 5 hour project (granted, for drivers side, which requires a removal of an engine mount as well).
Sovande
> MUSASHI66
11/19/2018 at 15:19 | 1 |
I would see if you can get the old one out. A new manifold seems like a pain in the ass. You may get more room if you pull the front wheel too. I would bet with a long bar and some pb blaster or heat you can get the thing out. If not, get a step bit and a “no weld” bung and drill a new hole.
Victorinoo
> MUSASHI66
11/19/2018 at 15:33 | 0 |
I’m just worried that if the o2 sensor is stuck on there imagine how the stuck small nuts holding the manifold will be.
atfsgeoff
> MUSASHI66
11/19/2018 at 15:54 | 0 |
What kind of clearance do you have to work with here? Enough to use a big-ass, 1,000+ ft-lb
1/2" impact wrench?
Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
> MUSASHI66
11/19/2018 at 16:40 | 0 |
I have NEVER been able to remove an O2 sensor on any vehicle lol... On my Miata, I have replaced both the midpipe and header. Both O2 sensors I just left in the old pipes and bought new sensors. Not worth my effort. Gladly, no O2 sensor has gone bad on me.
Had the same problem on my Neon and Civic. Paid a shop to remove both of those. I blame Northeast winters and all the damn salt.
I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
> MUSASHI66
11/19/2018 at 18:27 | 0 |
How awful is the placement of the sensor?
MUSASHI66
> atfsgeoff
11/19/2018 at 19:03 | 0 |
Nope. No clearance unless I remove the manifold.
MUSASHI66
> I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
11/19/2018 at 19:06 | 0 |
Bad. Very bad. It might be different if I remove the fender liner. Might have to wait for some warmer weather.
MUSASHI66
> Victorinoo
11/19/2018 at 19:07 | 0 |
Haven’t considered that...
MUSASHI66
> Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
11/19/2018 at 19:08 | 0 |
That link with a screw in sensor bung seems very interesting now. As long as I don’t have to weld.
Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
> MUSASHI66
11/19/2018 at 19:34 | 0 |
Certainly at least try to yank off the old one. Go until the thing is stripped to hell for sure.
I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
> MUSASHI66
11/19/2018 at 19:54 | 0 |
Guess it just depends on when your next smog test is, then
Dusty Ventures
> MUSASHI66
11/19/2018 at 20:59 | 0 |
Had this problem with the Outback. Took the manifold out, drilled out the sensor, retapped the hole, and used a ton of anti-seize when putting the new sensor in. That sensor failed a couple months ago and it came out no problem.
MUSASHI66
> I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
11/19/2018 at 22:03 | 0 |
I just talked to my dad as he’s been registering it. He says they haven’t had to run emissions for years. Truck is from 2000 - I’m not sure if they changed something in Colorado and stopped requiring it, or if this is a weird paperwork fluke. I have to do some research.
MUSASHI66
> Dusty Ventures
11/19/2018 at 22:05 | 0 |
I didn’t even know that you could do that with bungs until today. Definitely an option!
MUSASHI66
> I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
11/19/2018 at 22:08 | 0 |
Just checked and it is as I thought. No clue why they haven’t requested it or maybe they did two years ago and it feels like forever for my folks, and testing is right around the corner. Or, more than likely, dad would drive by the mobile test stations and would pass the test. I should go looking for one.
Vehicles seven (7) years and newer do not require inspection. Vehicles eight (8) years and older, back to model year 1982, require an inspection every two years. Vehicles model year 1981 and older are inspected every year. An inspection is required when a vehicle that is seven (7) years or older changes ownership.
I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
> MUSASHI66
11/19/2018 at 22:21 | 0 |
Huh. I want to say Ohio does every two years on anything younger than 25 years, but only if it's registered in one of like eight counties in the Akron-Cleveland area.